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The Cloudcast #141 - Cloud Portability Without Leaving the Nest

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The Cloudcast #141 - Cloud Portability Without Leaving the Nest

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Date: April 28, 2014

By: Aaron Delp and Brian Gracely

Description: Aaron talks with Navin Thadani (@navinthadani) about nested virtualization and common use cases spanning public clouds. Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)


Ravello Live Demo of Ravello on Google Compute Engine:

Topic 1 - We talked about a year ago on Episode #85. For those that aren’t familiar with nested virtualization & Ravello, give everyone a quick introduction.

Topic 2 - You call your product “nested virtualization” instead of anything related to Hybrid Cloud, although you’re able to help people leverage both public and private environments. Do you find people are averse to the “Hybrid Cloud” term, or you mostly want to focus on the aspects of your technologies?

Topic 3 - Today you are announcing GA of Ravello on GCE (Google Compute Engine). It would appear you are positioning the product to be at the intersection of the hypervisor and cloud. The hypervisor is both invisible (to the application) but is still a barrier to commodity. Do you see this changing over time? What need to happen to advance? Lastly, why GCE?

Topic 3a - Docker seems to be on everybody’s mind these days - does that play into your roadmap?

Topic 4 - What are the common use cases for nested virtualization you are seeing? Why isn’t one hypervisor enough? Is this a way to get “legacy applications” to cloud?

Topic 5 - Explain a bit about how to talk to the “outside world” with nested virtualization. How do you handle complex networking or communications with outside systems (databases, load balancers, firewalls, etc.)

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