“The Most Interesting Man in the Cloud”
Co-Host: Joe Onisick ( @jonisick )
Guest: Peder Ulander ( @ulander ),
Vice President of Product Marketing, Cloud Platform Group at
The Cloudcast (.net) #15 - The Most Interesting Man in the Cloud (33:33)
Date: August 7, 2011
By: Aaron Delp and Brian Gracely
Description: Brian & Joe Onisick talk about the history of Cloud.com and the future of Citrix with Peder Ulander.
guest this week has 20yr old Pappy VanWinkle on tap in his office, buys
his BBQ by the pig and in 2008 was off getting the Cloud.com
domain while the rest of you were off collateralizing your debt
obligations. He is the most interesting man in the cloud, Peder Ulander,
Vice President of Cloud Marketing at Citrix and the former CMO at
- Before we get into anything about Citrix or the
acquisition, Peder tell us about where Cloud.com was a couple months ago
and how it's evolved its business over the last 18 months (# customers,
# downloads, # versions of CloudStack,
- We talk for a little bit about running an Open Source
business and what that financial model looks like. We also talk about
business-lead vs. customer-lead models on how they are different in
terms of downloads, community support, etc.
- Peder gives us some background on how the Cloud.com
CloudStack was created and the specific challenges they tried to solve.
- Peder walks us through the Citrix acquisition of Cloud.com.
- In his new role, Peder is responsible for all things Cloud at
Citrix, which a very interesting mix of products these days. XenServer,
Cloudstack, Project Olympus, various Netscaler
platforms - so we dig into how he plans to pull them all together and
move from pieces and parts to more complete solutions.
- Citrix was an early supporter of OpenStack
and announced Project Olympus
a few months back. Now they have CloudStack, which has also announced
plans to support OpenStack. Peder explains how all those pieces fit
together, where the overlaps exists and how they plan to explain to
customers where the two paths may converge.
- Now that everybody has made an OpenStack announcement (Dell,
Cisco, HP, Citrix, lots of start-ups, etc.), does that create too much
confusion for customers? Does it create too much risk of fragmentation
and proprietary extensions? Can CloudStack just compete as the “got our
act together, OpenSource if you want it” solution? Peder gives us his
opinions on these issues as well as some of his beliefs about why there
are so many vendors signing up to support OpenStack.