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Join For FreeJames Gosling was giving a talk at BT on the future of Java (the evening was very well organised by Philip Milne - thanks for the invite & lovely curry! :) - and James is a thoroughly nice chap & much taller than he looks online :)
In
the Q&A I asked, if he had a magic wand and could change anything
in the Java ecosystem (platform, language etc) what would it be? His
answer was getting WebKit into the Java platform via JWebPane! Awesome
- go James! Along with closures in the Java language that would be mine
too as I've mentioned before.
Apparently work is still progressing on JWebPane - so despite the total
silence for nearly a year, it may hopefully one day see the light of
day. I just hope Sun releases something soon - it doesn't have to be perfect, then we can fix it in open source as a community.
I
do wonder if the JWebPane guys have been a bit too ambitious for the
first release (e.g. all the stuff about using Java2D and Swing
JTextField widgets within a web kit pane etc). Just having a webkit
panel which you can communicate with via Java & interact with the
DOM via Java would be rocking! The other stuff I'm less sure on how
important that is (e.g. the super tight integration of swing widgets
with the DOM widgets - just being able to place swing widgets inside
the DOM would be fine).
Incidentally I've been meaning to follow up from my previous post on webkit
in the JVM. I got alot of great comments and feedback either privately
or on the blog. Some were from Swing folks who didn't wanna touch all
this new fangled web stuff with DOM/HTML/CSS/JavaScript. Thats fine -
if you wanna stick to pure Swing please be my guest I didn't wanna
imply we should remove anything from Swing.
For the others, they
all pretty much agreed we need awesome browse integration in the JVM -
it would open up a massive amount of potential for rich applications
which embrace the web but work around the limitations of browsers
(networking & security limitations) and above all the biggest issue
with developing on the web - dealing with the zillions of ancient
crappy browsers. Instead building rich applications on the JVM using a
modern embedded webkit wouldn't have those issues & would make
creating web apps way more fun :)
Quite a few folks replied with links to existing projects similar in scope to JWebPane which I should just mention...
- JWebPane which hopefully will see the light of day one day, though its been eerily quiet for nearly a year...
- Qt has a WebKit component in its UI library
- SWT has a browser (FireFox) see the changelog and this eclipse con talk
- CB4J bundles Chromium WebKit in a Java widget
- Sage browser
I love competition; though I'd like to see a standard webkit component in the JVM and some consolitation though in APIs. I wonder if we could have some kinda JWebPane like API to interact with a 'Swing browser component' but let folks try different approaches to implementing that (e.g. using FireFox v WebKit etc)
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