Some 15 years ago, the idea of an ORDBMS (Object-Relational Database Management System) was red hot, and I was very close to the flaming hot center of that. I worked for Informix at the time, and Informix bought Illustra which was the hottest and coolest of the databases if it's time, hey it was an ORDBMS.

This was not a bad idea per se, and I got entangled with it and was really enthusiastic about the idea and I spent a lot of time evangelizing this technology. For Informix, this was as much market positioning and a technical change, Informix went from being the cheap redneck cousin to become the Gordon Gekko of databases. Before this, Oracle was the Big Market Leader, Sybase was the technology leader and Informix was the price leader (no, I'm not talking technical realities, there was a lot of good technical stuff to all of these, this is about how the world at large perceived these guys). But Illustra and another Informix project, XPS (aimed at the data warehouse market) was going to take Informix to places it had never been before. Oh, the Billboard wars, the day when Informix went past Sybase, those were fun days.

From a financial POV, Informix lost it, we already know that (read "The Real Story of Informix Software and Phil White" by "Steve W. Martin" ISBN: 978-0-09721822-2-5), but that's not, in my mind, the whole story, and I think that even though I think there are many good prspects for an ORDBMS system, it's not really as generic as I figured it back then (OK, I was wrong, I admit it, it does happen).

From a technical standpoint what went wrong was (this is my take on it, by the way) that the cool ORDBMS features shoehorned into an aging Informix RDBMS design ended up being largely the worst of both worlds. That has been fixed, to an extent, in more recent Informix releases, but not it's too late :-(

And from a conceptual view, this is also what I think is wrong with the whole ORDBMS thinking. I know and love the traditional RDBMS model, with a fixed number of columns and a variable number of rows, even if this is a simple model, it works real well for data. It makes plain data easy to visualize and understand, and this is also a well researched and understood model for data. As for OO, then this has been thoroughly researched, but the implementations and functionalities differ a lot. Also, OO has a developer focues way of looking at data, for an application, and Objects is a natural way of looking at things and makes things easy, from an application POV. But representing data as an Object is a different thing. Not a bad or good way, but different. The Relational model also lends itself to building control structures for data as it, assuming that the RDBMS is used in some kind of normalized form, is representing data at a very low level, lower than what most applications or end-users view data. And Objects are a way of combining all this data into something that is more application centric.

So the ORDBMS systems turned non-OO enough to not attract the OO people, and at the same time the OO features were non-Relational enough to make the SQL-experts ignore them. (Like: "Why would I want a result set with a variable number of columns?"),

And before I close this: Yes, I know there are many ORDBMS applications out there, that works well and where the application utilize all the cool ORDBMS features. Also, in Oracle and in Particular Postgres and others, there are ORDBMS features that are developed. And inside Postgres, the ORDBMS features is a building block for more than one generic RDBMS feature. But for database people in general, ORDBMS is something we don't see much of.