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I've recently joined a new team and we've been doing a bit of Clojure. If you've never done Lisp (and I hadn't before I found Clojure) it's natural to ask the quesetion: Will programming in Lisp, especially Prefix Notation, ever feel natural? The question came up a few weeks ago and I had two answers

First of all, I've never been really upset about parenthesis. In fact, I've been doing a bit of Java these days and I don't see much difference between verify(foo).bar(eq(100), any(Baz.class), eq("Cat")) and (-> foo verify (.bar (eq 100) (any Baz) (eq "Cat))). By my count it's the same number of parenthesis. Where they're located moves around a bit, but I don't consider that to be a good or a bad thing.

People also like to bring up examples like this:

(apply merge-with +
(pmap count-lines
(partition-all *batch-size*
(line-seq (reader filename)))))
Stefan Tilkov addressed this in a previous blog entry, and (in the comments of Stefan's entry) Rich Hickey points out that you can use a few different versions if you prefer to lay your code out in a different manner. Below are two alternative solutions Rich provided.

; The same code in a pipelined Clojure style:

(->> (line-seq (reader filename))
(partition-all *batch-size*)
(pmap count-lines)
(apply merge-with +))

; and in a step-wise Clojure style with labeled interim results (a la Adrian’s comment):

(let [lines (line-seq (reader filename))
processed-data (pmap count-lines
(partition-all *batch-size* lines))]
(apply merge-with + processed-data))
I've felt the same way for awhile. You can write Cobol in any language. The real question is, are you up for learning how to solve problems elegantly and idiomatically in a new language. If you're willing to invest the time, you'll be able to find out for yourself if it feels natural to write idiomatic Clojure code.

That was my answer, until today. While working on some Java code I stumbled on the following Java method.
public void onFill(int fillQty) {
this.qty = Math.max(this.qty - fillQty, 0);
This is a simple Java method that is decrementing the outstanding quantity state of an order by the amount of the order that just been filled. While reading the line I couldn't help but feel like there should be a more elegant way to express the logic. You want to set the outstanding quantity state to the current outstanding quantity minus what's just been filled, but you also never want the outstanding quantity to go below zero. I read from left to right, and I really wanted a way to express this logic in a way that followed the left to right pattern.

In Clojure, this is easy to do:
(swap! qty #(-> % (- fill-qty) (Math/max 0)))
For readers who are less familiar with Clojure dispatch reader macro, the above example can also be written as:
(swap! qty (fn [current-qty] (-> current-qty (- fill-qty) (Math/max 0))))
In the example above swap! is setting the qty state with the return value of the function.

If you're really new to Clojure, that might still be too much to take, so we can reduce the example and remove the state setting. Here's the version in Java that ignores setting state.
Math.max(this.qty - fillQty, 0);
The example below is a logical equivalent in Clojure.
(-> qty (- fill-qty) (Math/max 0))
When reading the above Java example I'm forced to put Math.max on my mental stack, evaluate this.qty - fillQty, and then mentally evaluate the method I put on the stack with my new result and the additional args. This isn't rocket science, but it's also not how I naturally read (left to right). On the other hand, when I read the Clojure version I think - take the current quantity, subtract the fill quantity, then take the max of that and zero. The code reads in small, logical chucks that are easy for me to digest.

Obviously, the Java code can also be rewritten in a few other ways. Here's an example of Java code that reads left to right and top to bottom.
public void onFill(int fillQty) {
this.qty -= fillQty
this.qty = Math.max(this.qty, 0);
And, I can do something similar in Clojure, if I want.
(swap! qty #(- % fill-qty))
(swap! qty #(Math/max % 0))
While it's possible to write Clojure similar to the above example, it's much more likely that you'd use a let statement if you wanted to break up the two operations.
(defn update-qty [current fill-qty]
(let [total-qty (- current fill-qty)]
(Math/max total-qty 0)))

(swap! qty update-qty fill-qty)
The above example is probably about equivalent to the following Java snippet.
public void onFill(int fillQty) {
int newTotalQty = this.qty - fillQty
this.qty = Math.max(newTotalQty, 0);
So, I can write code that is similar to my options in Java, but I'm still left wanting a Java version that is similar to this Clojure example:
(swap! qty #(-> % (- fill-qty) (Math/max 0)))
The only thing that springs to mind is some type of fluent interface that allows me to say this.qty = this.qty.minus(fillQty).maxOfIdentityOrZero(), but I can't think of a realistic way to create that API without quite a bit of infrastructure code (including my own Integer class).

(note, you could extend Integer in a language with open classes, but that's outside the scope of this discussion)

The last Clojure example is definitely the version of the code I would prefer. My preference is based on the way the code reads in concise, logical chunks from left to write. I don't have to solve inside out like the original java version forces me to, and I don't have to split my work across two lines.

I'm sure there are situations where Java allowed me to create an elegant solution that wouldn't have been possible in Clojure. This entry isn't designed to send a "Clojure is better than Java" message. I don't believe that. However, before today I've held the opinion that you can write Clojure that logically breaks up problems in ways very similar to what you do using Java. However, I've now also expanded my opinion to include the fact that in certain situations Clojure can also allow me to solve problems in a way that I find superior to my options within Java.

And, yes, after a bit of time getting used to Lisp syntax, it definitely does feel perfectly natural to me when I'm developing using Clojure.


From http://blog.jayfields.com/2011/03/readable-clojure-without-java.html

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