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Stonebraker Talk Triggers Critics' Discussion

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Prof. Michael Stonebraker is a controversial visionary, who is known for nothing less than Ingres, Postgres, Vertica, Streambase, Illustra, VoltDB, SciDB, besides being a renowned MIT professor. My recent blog post about Stonebraker’s talk at the EPFL (host university to Prof. Martin Odersky, creator of the Scala Language and Co-Founder of Typesafe) has triggered a very interesting discussion on reddit.

While Stonebraker is very sure about his obviously biased claims that “The Traditional RDBMS Wisdom is All Wrong”, the bottom line of the reddit discussion included:

Interesting insight on SQL Server’s enhancement can be seen in this blog post by Microsoft’s Nicolas Bruno, who challenges the fact that column stores cannot be implemented by “traditional RDBMS”. As Nicolas Bruno stated, an “Old Elephant” can be taught new tricks. “Traditional RDBMS” have proven to adapt to long-term trends in the database industry. Their success isn’t based around the fact that they are mainly fast, or particularly well-designed to respond to niche problem domains. Their success is mainly based on the fact that they are designed according to Codd’s 12 Rules, and thus to be extremely flexible in how they separate data interfacing (SQL) from data storage.

A lot of additional insight and ongoing links can be found in these blog posts by Daniel Lemire, where he had challenged Stonebraker’s similar claims already four years ago:


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