Achieving a DevOps transformation is much easier said than done. You don’t just flip a switch and “do” DevOps. It’s also not about buying DevOps tools.

Don’t you wish you could just sit down and talk with someone who’s done it all before? You can! This week, we’re excited to share that Gary Gruver, author and Jenkins World 2016 keynote, joined us on DevOps Radio to talk about leading a DevOps transformation. So plug in your headphones, shut your office door and get comfortable: You’re going to want to hear this!

For those of you who don’t know Gary, he’s co-author of A Practical Approach to Large-Scale Agile Development, a book in which he documents how HP revolutionized software development while he was there, as director of the LaserJet firmware development lab. He’s also the author of Leading the Transformation, an executive guide to transforming software development processes in large organizations. His impressive experience doesn’t stop at author and director at HP, though. As Macys.com’s VP of quality engineering, release and operations, he led the retailer’s transition to continuous delivery.

In this episode of DevOps Radio, Gary and DevOps Radio host Andre Pino dive into the topics covered in Gary’s two books. They talk through the reality of leading a transformation, discussing practical steps that Gary took. They also bring up challenges — ones that Gary faced, and ones that you might, too.

So, what are you waiting for?! Tune in to the latest episode of DevOps Radio. It’s available now on the CloudBees website and on iTunes. Join the conversation on Twitter by tweeting out to @CloudBees and including #DevOpsRadio in your post!

You can meet Gary in person at Jenkins World and hear his conference keynote. Register now! Use our promotion code JWDZOCUST and you’ll get a 20% discount. Meanwhile, learn more about Gary on his website.